newvest1(新衣)
A fully vaccinated Ontario man has died after a COVID-19 outbreak swept through his adult hockey league.
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Last Updated: 2021-10-29
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枫下家园 / 医药保健 / Vaccinated People Easily Transmit COVID-19 Delta Variant in Households: UK Study
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2021-10-29
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The Delta COVID-19 variant can easily transmit from vaccinated people to their household members, said a recent UK ...
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说真话的时候必须带着这个尾巴，although its researchers concluded that vaccinations and boosters are the way forward.
-111111(快乐老家);
2021-10-29
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老大也标题党了，柳叶刀这篇文章的结论是：接种疫苗可降低 delta 变种感染的风险并加速病毒清除（病毒携带量峰值下降快）。但是完全接种后人如果有突破性感染的话，病毒携带量峰值和未接种的人非常接近，仍然可以有效的在家庭内传染，即使全部都接种了疫苗。链接是文章原文
-coolrock(coolrock);
2021-10-29
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But UK 42weeks after vaxx, the vaxx 30+ older got more infection than unvaxx, so reality is increased risk of infection.
-headbig(Let's Rock！);
2021-10-29
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你怎么知道不是打完疫苗的人更放心大胆的出去浪，没有打疫苗的都躲在家里呢或者更加小心呢？批判性思维难道只有黑与白吗？
-coolrock(coolrock);
2021-10-29
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I am providing fact. How to interpret, or choose what to believe, is your own job. You want to believe that is a factor in a large scale, up to you. I don't see it makes much difference, just my own opinion.
-headbig(Let's Rock！);
2021-10-29
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opinion is not fact. 楼上是指出你通过 fact 得出 opinion 过程里的问题。
-897102(肉俩不良帅);
2021-10-29
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Your thought process is somewhat different. Looks we will never on the same platform to discuss anything. So long.
-headbig(Let's Rock！);
2021-10-29
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如果具有批评性思维，不会通过这个事实得出只有一个可能性，除非你能够排除其他的可能性。最简单的事实是安省7月份之后大规模开放，到目前为止并没有出现大规模感染，怎么解释？
-coolrock(coolrock);
2021-10-29
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Ontarian took 2nd shot started in June. Still within the 6 months somewhat protective period. There is numerous studies show vaxx faded after 6 months. Booster is officially on the way in BC. ON will follow. Question is how many booster can you take.
-headbig(Let's Rock！);
2021-10-29
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疫苗的防止感染的能力的确是在6-9个月之后消失，不过文章也指出疫苗防止住院和重症的保护力基本还是维持不变。目前看来除非将来出现大规模感染，大部分人第三针可以暂缓。对于个人来说，如果有基础病和年长体弱的，还是要打第三针。
-coolrock(coolrock);
2021-10-29
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We will see. won't take long. Israel revoke 2 doser vaxx pass when 3rd out. Let's see when and which province will adopt this first.
-headbig(Let's Rock！);
2021-10-29
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这么说的话，辉瑞做疫苗试验，打疫苗的感染率低，怎么知道是疫苗的功劳呢？也许是打疫苗的人防护做得好，也许是他们中大部分人根本没接触到病毒。FDA还不是根据辉瑞提供的数据批准了？
-blueskygg(Grass);
2021-10-29
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对于一种不成熟的疫苗，另一个重要学习方向的疫苗的副作用。有没有这类的文章？
-cicy(HuntforFreedom);
2021-10-29
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台湾卫生福利部发布了疫苗不良事件通报率
-returntoffice(等等);
2021-10-29
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意外率不低了，结论挺奇怪的
-cicy(HuntforFreedom);
2021-10-30
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昨天CTV的新闻，全家都是fully vaccinated
-newvest1(新衣);
2021-10-29
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A fully vaccinated Ontario man has died after a COVID-19 outbreak swept through his adult hockey league.
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文中的链接：1,760 people who had received both doses of a COVID-19 vaccine contracted COVID-19 since Oct. 15. At least 2,959 cases were logged in people who were unvaccinated and 227 infections were in people who were partially vaccinated.
-897102(肉俩不良帅);
2021-10-29
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你这个和我贴的没啥关系吧?这个例子只是一个例子说明全接种的一样传染，和被传染，家里其他5个人，一个也没逃过被传染。
-newvest1(新衣);
2021-10-29
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这个例子说明，接种以后也无法避免被感染。我的链接是你的新闻里的，数据说明，接种以后被感染的概率低于不接种。
-897102(肉俩不良帅);
2021-10-29
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感染率这个事情，只有数据正确才能信，现在ontario和英国得出结论不一样，哪个对？但是这家人是实实在在的例子，全家都感染了，而且打球的也都全接种，也很多人感染，目前只有他重症死亡，其他轻症。和不防感染，但是略防重症的英国的结论还是更符合一些。
-newvest1(新衣);
2021-10-29
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英国是特例，你不信安省的，可以看看其他省份和国家的。
-897102(肉俩不良帅);
2021-10-29
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CTV太没有职业道德了，这种抹黑疫苗的报道，哪怕是事实，也不该登啊。
-itwriting(halfpercent);
2021-10-29
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啥叫抹黑疫苗，疫苗不是100%有效大家都是知道的，打了疫苗不能100%防止感染，也不能100%防止死亡也是事实。为啥不报？
-coolrock(coolrock);
2021-10-29
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疫苗现在是药里的伊斯兰，害死人也得夸它是救命的和平药。。。。。。 -itwriting(halfpercent); 10-18
-itwriting(halfpercent);
2021-10-29
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呵呵，其中的确写了这句“She said the family still believes in the efficacy of vaccinations and doesn’t want people to be paranoid. ”哎，感觉现在真的是人的思维不正常，mass psychosis for sure。
-newvest1(新衣);
2021-10-29
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想起来以前女白左被木木难民强奸，造谣说是本地白人干的。这家人是同样思维，被某种“高大上”的东西害了，也无怨无悔，哈哈。
-itwriting(halfpercent);
2021-10-29
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是啊，想想如果你买了家用电器，没几个月坏了，就气急败坏了，这个听了政府的话完成义务，打完后人都没了，还这么支持这个产品。这个除了洗脑洗坏了，没啥解释了。
-newvest1(新衣);
2021-10-29
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谁知道这句话是不是媒体自己加进去的，象Joe Rogan这样有话语权的人，媒体都敢胡说他吃兽药。文章里的普通人，媒体加两句不是她说的话，她也没地方说理去。
-blueskygg(Grass);
2021-10-29
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这也是有可能的。不过never underestimate the power of brainwash, 我记得刚开始打疫苗的时候，有一家人，妈妈打疫苗得了血栓死了，随后爸爸和女儿说还是相信疫苗，接种了。
-newvest1(新衣);
2021-10-29
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Is that true that the fifth-generation chips Implanted in vaccines? Could this happen some day all the people do some thing when a switch action?
-hnryll(松树);
2021-10-29
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Conspiracy theories keep talking the possibility ！
-evelyn123(Eva);
2021-10-30
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That explains the puzzle why the cases have gone up since vaccination started. Vaccinated are more prone to contracting the virus. And they are capable of spreading the virus also.
-calgarian(目光似（比）月色寂寞);
2021-10-29
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Most likely in the future, everyone on earth gonna catch the virus in their lifetime due to the vaccinated ppl around the world which as the virus carry machine move around.
-evelyn123(Eva);
2021-10-30
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