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COVID 疫苗可以有效地防止感染

micah(mica)
It's a common misconception that COVID vaccines do not prevent infections. This is likely originated from the innitial phase 3 trials that were designed to test for their efficacies in preventing symptomatic infection only. These trials did not address the question whether vaccines have any effect on asymptomatic infections. Since the vaccine rolling out, more real world data and new trial results have become available. It is now abundantly clear that vaccines do prevent asympotomatic infections. See attached. Original data can be found in the below link.
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Last Updated: 2021-12-1
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  • 枫下家园 / 医药保健 / COVID 疫苗可以有效地防止感染 -micah(mica); 2021-12-1 {561} (#14151718@0) +2
    It's a common misconception that COVID vaccines do not prevent infections. This is likely originated from the innitial phase 3 trials that were designed to test for their efficacies in preventing symptomatic infection only. These trials did not address the question whether vaccines have any effect on asymptomatic infections. Since the vaccine rolling out, more real world data and new trial results have become available. It is now abundantly clear that vaccines do prevent asympotomatic infections. See attached. Original data can be found in the below link.
    • 图 -micah(mica); 2021-12-1 {16} (#14151723@0)

      怎么贴补上图啊
    • 图在这儿 -micah(mica); 2021-12-1 {195} (#14151733@0) +1


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      • 别费劲了，人家一句“政府数据造假”就完事了。 -winterfish(潜水鱼(\ (•◡•) /)); 2021-12-1 (#14151963@0) +8
        • 从来没说过疫苗能防止感染， -winterfish(潜水鱼(\ (•◡•) /)); 11-24 {382} (#14135148@0) -blueskygg(Grass); 2021-12-2 {123} (#14152138@0) +13
          果然你是一本正经在瞎说，疫苗的原理是防止感染？你肯定是来自其它星球， -winterfish(潜水鱼(\ (•◡•) /)); 10-21 (#14057620@0)
          • 谢谢，您费心了，我还是那个观点，疫苗从原理上就是不能防止感染，只能减轻症状。待会有空发帖讨论一下。 -winterfish(潜水鱼(\ (•◡•) /)); 2021-12-2 (#14152432@0)
            • 疫苗就是用来防感染的，看看CDC怎么说的：疫苗刺激人体对疾病的免疫反应，如果您对某种疾病免疫，您就可以接触它而不会被感染。 -blueskygg(Grass); 2021-12-2 {314} (#14152501@0) +3
              • 社会进步真快哈，各类民间人士现在可以随意定义各项专业术语，老夫跟不上时代辣。 -lovedrive(深蓝爷爷); 2021-12-2 (#14152518@0)
          • 那你们到底相不相信疫苗能终结病毒大流行？-winterfish(潜水鱼(\ (•◡•) /)) --------不防传染，如何终止大流行？事实告诉我们，靠目前的这些疫苗无法终止新冠大流行。 -lovedrive(深蓝爷爷); 2021-12-2 (#14152456@0) +4
    • Too Old To Use -111111(快乐老家); 2021-12-1 (#14151738@0) +1
      • Last Updated Sept. 15, 2021 现在已经过了快3个月还没有更新…… -sunrain88(养蛆成蛊); 2021-12-2 (#14152104@0) +7
    • 现在已经有很多数据了，再忽悠“疫苗”管用已经远不如以前容易了。 Report: The Fully Vaccinated Account for 81% of the COVID Deaths in the UK (#14142709@0) -jackliu8688(Jack); 2021-12-2 (#14152077@0) +11
      • 这个网站专登虚假信息和阴谋论，因此根本就不用每次针对其中某一篇文字再费时戳穿其骗人的手段了。The website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories -viewing(viewing); 2021-12-2 (#14152087@0) +6
        • 如此评论这个网站的网站是否可靠呢？这年头贼喊捉贼的很多。 -jackliu8688(Jack); 2021-12-2 (#14152115@0) +11
          • 这是维基对该网站词条第一段内容。维基的规定是，如果词条涉及公司等实体，实体的所有人最有权修改该词条。这也是这个网站的滑稽之一。 -viewing(viewing); 2021-12-2 (#14152148@0) +1
            • 维基已经是党派倾向很强的网站，不可靠 -jackliu8688(Jack); 2021-12-2 (#14152155@0) +7
              • 数据上，我相信Science, Nature等严肃期刊的科研成果，你们相信阴谋论网站篡改的断章取义或者不入流的民科水平的研究。大家各取所需。 -viewing(viewing); 2021-12-2 (#14152176@0) +5
    • 真有效就不会号召打第三针了，之所以要打第三针就是前两针已经没效了。疫苗的事真是没必要继续讨论了，想跟随政府号召的继续打，反正政府买了足够多的疫苗，不想继续打的，一针不打，打一针，打两针很快都没差别。 -cocowen(coco); 2021-12-2 (#14152106@0) +24
      • 流感疫苗也是年年打，你吃了一餐难道永远不饿？ -bluefoil(*I*); 2021-12-2 (#14152168@0) +7
        • 那你就接着打，又没人拦着你，最好就象你吃饭一样，一天三次。 -cocowen(coco); 2021-12-2 (#14152494@0) +12
    • 反疫苗都是医学天才，上个社交论坛智商就碾压学习工作几十年的医生和防疫专家，你的数据只对普通人适用，反疫苗医学家们就算得了新冠他们也可以吃兽药喝消毒水治疗 -bluefoil(*I*); 2021-12-2 (#14152169@0) +8
    • 昨天健康1+1报道cdc有研究打不打疫苗传播没区别。柳叶刀也有类似文章。 -headbig(Let's Rock！); 2021-12-2 (#14152229@0) +4
      • 网上有个podcast,采访了一个医生和那个山地车运动员，医生详细解释了vaccine, 认为现在的vaccine 根本不是vaccine, 不妨传染也没有immunity, 只能当做一种drug,只有减轻symptom 的作用。有兴趣的可以听听，时间比较长。 -newvest1(新衣); 2021-12-2 {566} (#14152249@0) +6
        A Cautionary Message From Vaccine Advocates w/ Dr. Aditi Bhargava, Kyle Warner, And Brianne Dressen
        Are we getting all the information necessary to make informed decisions about vaccination? Molecular Biologist Dr. Aditi Bhargava, the director of laboratory...
    • 我早就放弃了。这里没人听得进去不同意见😂😂 -newrover(漫游); 2021-12-2 (#14152256@0) +3
      • 可以放弃争论，但是不要放弃寻找truth.😂不要在乎听这个坛上的谁的意见，在于有没有兴趣看各种资料，各种医生的讲述。 -newvest1(新衣); 2021-12-2 (#14152286@0) +8
        • 看到各种资料、讲述之前，如果是离奇的，最重要的是先判断真假。结论越“震惊”，证据就要越有力，否则都是骗人点击的。 -moonhalf(减肥减多久); 2021-12-2 (#14152453@0)

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