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你这里指的是新冠状大流行，

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他说的不是新冠：In his response to the panel, Bancel continued:

“I remember walking into the office of my head of manufacturing and I said, ‘How will we make a billion doses next year?’ And he looked at me a bit funny, ‘Say what?’ I said, ‘Yeah, we need to make a billion doses next year, there’s going to be a pandemic”.

While the posts mentioned earlier used this quote as proof that Bancel knew about the COVID-19 pandemic, this is baseless. Indeed, COVID-19 first started as an outbreak in late 2019 and was already monitored by international organizations. According to the U.S. National Institute of Health (NIH), U.S. organizations decided to start working on a vaccine in late December 2019 to early January 2020.
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  • 枫下茶话 / 社会政治 / 不再隐瞒？2023年达沃斯论坛，美国疫苗公司承认：事先知道2020年将发生“大流行”！ -nazacalines(游戏升级); 2023-8-3 {3863} (#15588778@0) +4
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    • You spread the false information again. Why do you like to do this repeatedly? -steven8888(夜太黑); 2023-8-4 {1180} (#15588832@0) +3
      At Davos 2023, Moderna CEO Stephane Bancel spoke about how quickly the company was able to scale up vaccine production at the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, not that Moderna had made 100,000 COVID vaccine doses before the pandemic began, as some are claiming online.
      Full Story:
      https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-moderna-vaccine-doses/fact-check-moderna-ceo-did-not-say-company-made-100000-covid-19-vaccine-doses-before-the-pandemic-started-idUSL1N34Q2UZ
      • Moderna CEO’s remarks on 2019 vaccine supply mischaracterized -steven8888(夜太黑); 2023-8-4 {583} (#15588835@0)
        • 我没有看楼主的内容，直接看你链的这一篇。公平地说，AP这地洗得太糟糕了。主持人明明问的就是COVID-19，回答的当然也是在这个context。 -uws(United We Stand); 2023-8-4 {1035} (#15588838@0) +3

          The video shows Bancel speaking on a panel titled “State of the Pandemic” during the World Economic Forum’s annual meeting in Davos, Switzerland, last month.

          In the 58-second clip posted to social media, the moderator asks: “Let’s talk about vaccine development because we’ve heard how it happened obviously with COVID-19, starting from 2022 and how extraordinary the process was also in terms of the speed. How is development, adoption and scaling of the vaccine going when it comes to different variants and sub-variants?”

          To this, Bancel responds: “So the great news versus 2020, where we are today is that we have manufacturing capacity. As Seth knows, when the pandemic happened, Moderna had made 100,000 dose in 2019 for the whole year. And I remember walking into the office of my manufacturing and I say, ‘How about we make a billion dose next year?’ And they look at me a bit funny and say, ‘What?’ And I say, ‘Yeah we need to make a billion dose next year, there’s going to be a pandemic.’”

          • Davos 发生在一月，他在二月份进一步澄清了媒体的误读。 -steven8888(夜太黑); 2023-8-5 (#15591863@0)
            • 讲的时候考虑不周，泄露机密。 -uws(United We Stand); 2023-8-5 (#15591899@0)
      • 楼主帖的内容和你链接的factcheck所叙述的事实是相同的。区别在于，factcheck文试图狡辩洗地。非常损害AP的信用（如果还有的话）。 -uws(United We Stand); 2023-8-4 (#15588843@0) +4
        • Wrong statement - 美国疫苗公司承认：事先知道2020年将发生“大流行”！ -steven8888(夜太黑); 2023-8-4 (#15588850@0)
          • "And I say, ‘Yeah we need to make a billion dose next year, there’s going to be a pandemic.’" -**🫒; 2023-8-4 (#15588855@0) +1
            • Bancel 已经澄清了那些无底线媒体的报导：“While the posts mentioned earlier used this quote as proof that Bancel knew about the COVID-19 pandemic, this is baseless.” -steven8888(夜太黑); 2023-8-5 (#15591845@0)
              • 讲出去的话，泼出去的水。他是在说他自己造谣吗？ -uws(United We Stand); 2023-8-6 (#15591903@0) +2
                • 那个媒体断章取义：今天我告诉你ABC，你理解成ABD；明天我再提醒你是ABC，难道你还断章成ABD？你的意图是What？ -steven8888(夜太黑); 2023-8-6 (#15592700@0)
                  • 这个2023 WEF panel 的名字就是 State of the Pandemic，您老该不会以为这个pandemic是关于狂犬病的吧。顺便问一下，过去50年西方社会发生了多少pandemic? -uws(United We Stand); 2023-8-6 (#15592909@0)
                    • Bancel 已经澄清了不良媒体的误导，你还要他如何？ -steven8888(夜太黑); 2023-8-6 (#15592989@0)
                      • #15588838@0 一字不改地从 AP 的洗地文抄的。不加任何评论。读者不是傻子。即使是洗地文，也不敢去洗他说过的 there's going to be a pandemic. 洗不了。 -uws(United We Stand); 2023-8-6 (#15593026@0)
          • there's going to be a pandemic. 怎么个 wrong 法？ -**🫒; 2023-8-4 (#15589881@0) +2
            • 你这里指的是新冠状大流行， -steven8888(夜太黑); 2023-8-5 {735} (#15591824@0)
              他说的不是新冠：In his response to the panel, Bancel continued:

              “I remember walking into the office of my head of manufacturing and I said, ‘How will we make a billion doses next year?’ And he looked at me a bit funny, ‘Say what?’ I said, ‘Yeah, we need to make a billion doses next year, there’s going to be a pandemic”.

              While the posts mentioned earlier used this quote as proof that Bancel knew about the COVID-19 pandemic, this is baseless. Indeed, COVID-19 first started as an outbreak in late 2019 and was already monitored by international organizations. According to the U.S. National Institute of Health (NIH), U.S. organizations decided to start working on a vaccine in late December 2019 to early January 2020.
          • Never did he specify that he was talking about COVID-19 vaccine doses. -steven8888(夜太黑); 2023-8-5 {521} (#15591838@0)
            In fact, Bancel was commenting on the general Moderna manufacturing capacity in 2019 for any kind of vaccines. Moderna has been producing mRNA therapeutics since 2010 and was already working on mRNA vaccine candidates for other diseases in 2019. Moderna’s report to investors for the third quarter of 2019 shows that Moderna’s pipeline had at least three mRNA vaccine candidates, for Zika, RSV, and CMV. Furthermore, nowhere in the report is mentioned the development or production of mRNA vaccines for any coronavirus.
        • AP is FAKE NEWS! -**🫒; 2023-8-4 (#15588856@0) +5
    • 有没有人预测，啥时候人类灭亡呵。这种吃饱了撑的事情，天天都惦记，后面弄不好还有新的疫情，都是mRNA药物，那些疫苗智忧者不如早点结束自己得了，一了百了 -x2y(xfer); 2023-8-6 (#15593072@0)

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