I was reluctant to post an answer first. Because if I were you, I won't even consider it.

wjiang(wjiang)

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛For new immigrants from China, the ONLY place to land is Toronto.
Some say Vancouver has wamer climate, then why don't you go HaiNan?
Some say Montreal has government subside. If you are looking for
that, why come to Canada?

For new immigrants, the most important thing is to find a career
or at least a job. We Chinese like "Kai Yuan Jie Liu" or 'earn more
and spend less'. You land in Montreal, you spend less. But the bottom
line is your ability to earn. Otherwise, sooner or later, you end
up with pennyless.

Toronto, as the economic centre of Canada, has far more job
opportunities than another places in Canada. It is obvious
you get a job easier in Toronto. It is said in a movie that
if I were in Roman time, I would go to Roma, because Roma
is the centre of the world. Think about it. Now in Canada
we are in Toronto time, we go to Toronto.

Vancouver and Montreal both have their benefits. The local
governments must have boasted for that already. The thing is
you must know what is your first important issue. Never forget
that. In Vancouver, there is only few Universities. There is
already no job opportunity, if you can't get university
education, HOW CAN YOU SURVIVE??? In Montreal, people with
only English background has already been treated differently.
May I ask if your Eglish is already as good as those
English speaking Canadians? So can imagine to have a life
better than them? English is so hard for us, do
you think Franch is easier? again, HOW CAN YOU SURVIVE there?

Sometimes, you can't have a try first. Life won't reward you
just because you dare to risk. So many people landed in Toronto
successfully, why don't just follow the trend?

I sincerely wish that you would give up even a bit consideration
of going to Vancouver or Montreal. Please don't. Facing the
challenging job market is unavoidable. Please do not postpone it.

I also wish all of we Chinese new immigrants have better life
every day.更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net

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我在广州,看样也得在HK去,时间和你差不多. email ruzhu1@sina.com.cn -guest:团团; 2000-12-20 (#18761@0)

me to. contact me by mail(ruzhu1@sina.com) or by mp:13002057750 -guest:团团; 2000-12-20 (#18762@0)

hey, U have made a decision? i met the same problem. -coin(心情不错); 2000-12-20 (#18768@0)

We planed to go to Vancouver in next April. The choice of destination should depend on your interest in working environment and life environment. -josephww(Joe); 2000-12-20 (#18780@0)

it's absolutely true. however, whether the environment is good or not good for someone is relative and depend on what you want. so i'm still in hesitating. -clover(水易); 2000-12-25 (#19386@0)

我也正在思量去哪里，请查收email，我们联系一下吧。 -paladin(paladin); 2000-12-20 (#18837@0)

paladin,你的电话线路有故障，我已发EMAIL给你，请查收。 -clover(水易); 2001-1-4 (#20428@0)
你们决定去哪了吗？我下月走，但仍未定，可否联系一下，email: smiling666@163.net -guest:guest; 2001-2-26 (#28629@0)

还有我. chibby@21cn.com -bluegirl(bluegirl); 2000-12-24 (#19248@0)

There are more job opportuniies in Toronto. The cost is more expensive in Toronto . Good luck! -www(www); 2000-12-25 (#19363@0)

thank you. how's everything going in toronto? how about weather? -clover(水易); 2000-12-25 (#19383@0)

You are welcom! It it cold now, but it isn't difficult to deal with. There are more job opportunities, whatever labour or professional. You can also mail to me if you have some questions that I can answer. -www(www); 2000-12-29 (#19826@0)

我们还在等待LP，但是也一直在考虑将来的登陆和定居问题。关于Montreal，有几个问题想请教各位朋友（一直以来我们多方打听，但是答案多样不知哪个是真实的）： -meixiao(Amy); 2000-12-28 {750} (#19743@0)

我们还在等待LP，但是也一直在考虑将来的登陆和定居问题。关于Montreal，有几个问题想请教各位朋友（一直以来我们多方打听，但是答案多样不知哪个是真实的）：

1．我们申请表上填的登陆地点是Toronto，如果将来想在Montreal登陆，有没有问题？需要再办理什么手续，具体做法怎样？

2．新移民还可以报读政府开办的免费法语班（原名COFI）并领取生活津贴吗？如果可以,上课需要预约并排队等待多长时间?

3．法语难学吗？COFI总共可以上多长时间？如果一点法语基础都没有，学完整个COFI课程一般可以达到什么水平？

4．在广州买不到小孩穿的长及膝盖的羽绒服。冬天在Montreal小女孩（九岁）要穿什么样的服饰（尤其是裤子、鞋子）来保暖？在哪里买合适，广州或Montreal？

希望热心的朋友（尤其是已经在Montreal登陆或定居的朋友）提供信息，不胜感激！可给我发e-mail：amyzhanglu@yahoo.com.cn。

与蒙市相关的信息可以去看一下www.sinoquebec.com -clover(水易); 2000-12-29 (#19768@0)
1,No problem. 2. yes, about 2~3 month. 3,french is difficult. 7~10 month of COFI, the level depend on yourself. 4.sorry, I got no idea -rock_jack(Rock Jack); 2000-12-30 (#19860@0)

May I buy the ticket directly to Montreal? Or, I must clear the custom in Toronto, and then go to Montreal? Thanks -vivian5092(vivian); 2000-12-31 (#19968@0)

no flight directly to Montreal, you have to stop at Vancouver. -rock_jack(Rock Jack); 2000-12-31 (#19972@0)

Thanks, Jack. I was meaning that if my destination indicated on the LP is other city than Montreal, may I landed in Montreal directly ( apply SIN card, etc.). Many thanks. -vivian5092(vivian); 2001-1-1 (#20018@0)

you can land everywhere in Canada whatever what's on your lp -rock_jack(Rock Jack); 2001-1-1 (#20031@0)

水易、Rock Jack——thanks a lot! I greatly appreciate your warm hearts!Happy new year and best wishes to you! -meixiao(Amy); 2001-1-1 (#19978@0)
Rock Jack：你好！关于法语 -meixiao(Amy); 2001-1-1 {386} (#19979@0)
你是说COFI课程可以上7~10个月？这个学习时间根据什么来确定？你说法语很难学，真让我心怵。我原以为，对于语言这个东西，当你处于这个语言环境时，如果你肯下工夫去学，那么总有一天你可以自如地运用它。如果我完成了整个COFI的课程后也还不能在日常生活中较好地使用法语，我真担心我九岁的女儿不能适应Montreal的法语教育！这样看来，我们不能选择在Montreal定居了，尽管我们喜欢这个文化艺术气息浓厚的美丽城市。

Don't worry about french -rock_jack(Rock Jack); 2001-1-1 {310} (#20005@0)
COFI时间根据法语水平来定，没有基础的一般是7个月，完成以后有的可以加3个月。法语是难，但大多人学不好法语不是因为难，而是不用，因为在这说英语一样可以。

小孩入学前有一个欢迎班，学习法语，9岁的孩子肯定半年内就可以给你纠正发音用词了。如果你能督促他的英语的话，以后上英语大学，就可以成为真正的fully trilingual 了。

Thanks, Rock Jack -meixiao(Amy); 2001-1-4 (#20412@0)

不知该如何选择 -meixiao(Amy); 2001-1-4 {950} (#20413@0)

我们之所以想选择蒙特利尔，除了喜欢这个美丽城市民风淳朴、文化艺术气息浓郁之外，更重要的原因在于我们希望能在一个对新移民来说生活压力相对较小的地方开始我们的新生活——尽管在我们作出移民这个决定时已充分考虑过我们将面对的困难并且决定无论如何也要挺下去。

我们了解到蒙城的生活消费较多伦多等其它城市低，读书的学费较低，有魁省政府为新移民开设的COFI，，这是吸引我们的重要原因（还有我们的女儿将来是trilingual）。毕竟移民是改变我们一生的大事。在最初的阶段如果最基本的生存需求能得到满足，那么我们就能以较为宽松的心态去熟悉这个新环境，更好地给我们的将来定位。

但是，我们在国内学了这么多年英语水平都没什么突破（阅读还算过得去，但听、说都不过关），搞得自己都有点灰心丧气。我们原来想过，自己英语既然有一定的基础，将来在一个英语的环境中被强化，肯下苦功终有一天能突破语言关。

但现在如果选择蒙城这样一个法语环境，这英语水平岂不是又难以提高了吗？想读书进修的话英语也过不了关呀！原来没有一点法语基础，就算读完整个COFI再作强化，也不至于能达到读法语学校的水平吧！？

我也在为此踌躇，不过原因不竟相同。 -clover(水易); 2001-1-4 {218} (#20427@0)
我可能会带孩子先去，而montreal不象多、温市有相熟的老朋友，因而有对不可知情况的胆怯, 除此之外，只是对多学一种语言和体验另一种生活的向往。选择就是舍得，有得必有舍，关键是你到底需要什么。况且，落地后的二次选择可能更为客观

Since my brother is already there, I plan to land in Montreal. -vivian5092(vivian); 2001-1-4 (#20429@0)

你定下来了吗？什么时候从香港走，我是大连的，因为一些私事，也先要去香港，然后从那里出发，。。。。差不多是三月底。。。 -cliffwang2001(Cliff); 2001-2-26 (#28632@0)

如果你是问CLOVER，回答是：地点定下来了，先在TORONTO落脚；但日期还待定，可能要推后。 -clover(水易); 2001-2-26 (#28776@0)

I was reluctant to post an answer first. Because if I were you, I won't even consider it. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001-2-26 {1990} (#28813@0)

@Las Vegas

I was reluctant to post an answer first. Because if I were you, I won't even consider it.

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