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where to stay?--money + life quality

sophy(orchid)

i would like to hear you guys' expriences and ideas about where to stay if I want to have a best combination of money and life quality. Options are:

money life 1.0*money + 1.5*life
China
US
Canada
Singapore
Hongkong
Australia
Europe (Egland)
Europe (other)
else

(for me, life is more important although these two affect each other. So I assume an importance factor of 1.5 for life:)

sorry about my English input! no excuse just can't do it at office now:)

have a good weekend everyone

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Last Updated: 2002-1-4
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基本上是个无解的问题, 因为1. HOW MUCH MONEY IS ENOUGH? 2. WHAT KIND OF LIFE IS THE BEST? 每个人的标准和理解不同, 答案一定不同. -dropoutinmiami(东北的饺子); 2002-1-5 (#323063@0)

钱永远不怕多，最好这辈子怎么花都花不光；但如果钱赚得太辛苦，不要也罢。心里总是有美好的愿望，只可惜我和老公都是懒散的人，也没有有钱的父母，这辈子只好赚多少花多少，不要入不敷出就好。 -fionah(Fiona); 2002-1-5 (#323077@0)

美国，当然是美国， -hearts(hearts); 2002-1-5 {44} (#323085@0)

如果你能在那里合法住下去的话。

西欧不好吗?我一直期望可以在欧洲的某个小城生活。 -fionah(Fiona); 2002-1-5 (#323088@0)

Europe is the best, but is not made for you, unfortunately, and excuse my honesty. -mocha(Hand Craft); 2002-1-5 (#323091@0)

我当然知道这点了。虽然是事实，做做梦总是可以的。况且，等我退休以后，每年去住三两个星期还是有希望的吧。Who knows? -fionah(Fiona); 2002-1-5 (#323100@0)

Sorry for giving you the straight answer, just forget what I told you.... and.. dream on... :) -mocha(Hand Craft); 2002-1-5 (#323103@0)

That's OK. I am not the person who is easy to feel disappointed. I would not be here if I have no dream. :-) -fionah(Fiona); 2002-1-5 (#323125@0)

欧洲的城市适合旅游:X住在那里麽,语言问题很大.如果可以,我希望选择维也纳,干净,安静,美丽,浪漫入骨,适合JJMM们的口味:) -rainrain(雨雨); 2002-1-5 (#323121@0)

And being treated like Viets... :) -mocha(Hand Craft); 2002-1-5 (#323123@0)

The reason that a Euro small town is the best is exactly because there're no immigrants there...All local. No Brits people live in a small German town... -mocha(Hand Craft); 2002-1-5 (#323106@0)

加拿大也有很多小城很少有 ” 闲杂人等“ 。美国也一样，和欧洲的差别就是一些建筑和传统的文化了。 -hearts(hearts); 2002-1-5 (#323113@0)

But they watch CBC, and "shanghai noon", and europeans don't. -mocha(Hand Craft); 2002-1-5 (#323117@0)

别忘了有很多英法德意荷。。。国家的人不远万里来到美国甚至加拿大。你听说过几个美国人去别的国家扎根？！ -hearts(hearts); 2002-1-5 (#323097@0)

A lot. -mocha(Hand Craft); 2002-1-5 (#323099@0)
首先我不是指欧洲的那些穷国；其次，再除去战争期间来美洲的；据我所知，其他欧洲裔的美洲人都是很早就来美洲的，其中有很多犯人、社会底层的人，当年都是希望来新大陆来找口饭吃的。 -fionah(Fiona); 2002-1-5 (#323120@0)

No, the criminals were sent to Aussi, not America. Americans are Protestants, who were pushed away by the Catholics. You need to read some history books, lady. -mocha(Hand Craft); 2002-1-5 {158} (#323122@0)
Disclaim: my opinion is just mine, and not that of my employers and anyone else.

Advice: take it as a joke if it doesn't please the ears of the audiences

Thanks, man. When I posted that, I was wondering whether the criminals were sent to America. You're right. I don't like to read history books, I learn the history from novels. -fionah(Fiona); 2002-1-5 (#323128@0)

Okay, everybody dreams, I think you're smarter than I am when dreaming.... I was in Europe, Japan, HK, US, working (not as students), I've seen it all (except that I'd like to see sg and tw)... -mocha(Hand Craft); 2002-1-5 {130} (#323135@0)
I believe the answer is to live in BJ, SH or SZ, if your goal is not limited to just entry level 6 figure salary in North America.

Haha. That comes back to what 饺子 mentioned: WHAT KIND OF LIFE IS THE BEST? I like money, but money means nothing if I cannot live as what I like. -fionah(Fiona); 2002-1-5 {205} (#323146@0)
I lived in three of the biggest cities of China before I came here:Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou. I don't like them at all. That's why I choose to leave. I hope I can find the life I want out of China.

Probably because you were originally from a small town I suppose? -mocha(Hand Craft); 2002-1-5 {44} (#323205@0)
Then there's not much option for ya. Sorry.

You are totally wrong. -fionah(Fiona); 2002-1-5 {989} (#323347@0)
I was born in Beijing. I lived in Beijing and Shanghai before I entered primary school. Also, I graduated from one university in Shanghai, and then I went to Guangzhou after graduated.

Actually, I don't like any small cities I have visited. Also, I don't like ShenZhen. ShenZhen cannot be called “big city” in my opinion.

I know there are a lot of opportunities to earn money. Although I am not rich, I still can live pretty well for a few years in Toronto without income.

I don't like to live in China because I don't like the living environment. Although Toronto is not very good place for live, it is better than each cities in China that I have lived in.

Money means nothing if I cannot live as what I like. After I earn enough money in China, my all life would be ruined there. I cannot have dream if I still live somewhere in China.

Maybe there are fewer opportunities for me in Canada, but I still have dream. Also, that dream is not as far as I cannot touch.

很多美国人不也去了中国么??大山还是个加拿大人呢 -antmm(明天你会不会来...); 2002-1-5 (#323161@0)

DOABLE. 比如意大利北部一个非常美丽的小城市(ITALIAN RIVERA), 房租(APARTMENT)US$ 700, 不需要车, 基本生活费也不很高. 找份工作养活自己(回避EU身份), 然后坐火车周游欧洲. 住上几年, 在到别的地方住住 -dropoutinmiami(东北的饺子); 2002-1-5 (#323109@0)

Except that 1. I have to learn to say "pronto" instead of "dumpling speaking..." 2. I have to explain to every shop owner that I 'm chinese not japanese 3. I have to explain that I am local not foreign -mocha(Hand Craft); 2002-1-5 {134} (#323115@0)
4. I have to convince the girls that I am fun too altho I'm not Italian...

If my points make no sense, just take them as jokes...

几个理由. 1. ITALIAN FOOD实在好吃. 2. 意大利的某些款式的车值得尝试. 3. 手里握着百万里拉, 感觉好歹也是MILLIONARE(^_*). 4. 好在不用住一辈子, 腻拉就利马换地儿...5. 衣服好看又不太贵. 6. 可以开160KM/HR...... -dropoutinmiami(东北的饺子); 2002-1-5 (#323124@0)

1. Italian food is good only for a week, it doesn't please a Chinese tummy for an extended period. 2. "fiet" and "smart" are the most popular but awful cars 3. :) -mocha(Hand Craft); 2002-1-5 {184} (#323127@0)
4. Once you've got Canadian residence, that's all right. agreed 5. Not really true. It's only cheap if w/o brand names Armani is not cheap either. 6. go to germany, no speed limits.

I'm looking for an answer to the same question, and have done some reasearch. Keep in touch and maybe we can exchange our ideas. -mocha(Hand Craft); 2002-1-5 (#323093@0)

thank you, and 饺子 and Fionah, for your ideas. maybe by the end, I' d wonder where is my paradise in a large city--would it be-- -sophy(orchid); 2002-1-6 {36} (#324901@0)
where love+marriage+family resides:)

真的是萝卜白菜各有所爱,这个问题不问也罢. -babymoon(babymoon); 2002-1-5 (#323159@0)

Sure, some people love Canada soo much before they have a chance to see it. -mocha(Hand Craft); 2002-1-5 (#323206@0)

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