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Answer a few questions.... If you can't convince me, how can you convince the judge?

mikesmith(老猫)

到底有没有校巴？ Does "其实事发当天我从来没有见过校巴" mean there was no school bus at all on the road when the police issued the ticket and you are 100% innocent?
if this is true,
how did the school bus driver knows about your license plate number? And how can you explain "本来她把我前方的大车也拦下来了"?
conclusion 1) There was a school bus on the road, and several cars passed it, including you

Is this the first time you violate the school bus related traffic rule? based on " 警察也说只是接到校巴司机的投诉电话才跟上我的" and "她却说其他的车都停下来了，就我冲了校巴"
conclusion 2) This was Nth time you violated the traffic rule... Just this time you were caught on the scene.

Based on conclusion 1 and 2, all other facts are irrelevant and you are guilty on the charge.

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Last Updated: 2007-10-25
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枫下茶话 / 法律 / 交通告票罚了我510还扣6分，说我闯校巴。其实事发当天我从来没有见过校巴，警察也说只是接到校巴司机的投诉电话才跟上我的，当时她也没有亲眼见到我闯校巴，就这样法官还盼我有罪。加拿大还有说理的地方吗？ -cwnz(Hong); 2007-10-24 {284} (#4014700@0)
而且警察根本在法庭上撒谎，本来她把我前方的大车也拦下来了，她却说其他的车都停下来了，就我冲了校巴，这些都不符合事实，可是法官只相信警察的一面之词，我该怎样办？我已经了高级法院的上诉
还有机会赢吗？法官为何不相信我的话？如果这次我上诉还是输了，保险会涨吗？几年以后才不会有记录？

没办法，法官宁愿相信警察的证词，而不愿相信你的证词。除非你能证明警察说谎，这是证明自己清白的最有效的措施。然而，你很难自我证明清白，除非有证人为你作证。。。 -noproblem(。o O); 2007-10-24 (#4014782@0)
你可以找人证明你不在现场 -oasis(oasis); 2007-10-24 (#4014804@0)
你还是缴钱认罪。看你的陈述，整个是在狡辩。再上诉，没准儿再控你个说谎罪，欺骗法庭罪。 -dalaocu(大老粗); 2007-10-25 (#4015827@0)

我没有必要在网上撒谎吧，有啥意义呢？只是想咨询大家的意见，上诉有没有减刑的可能。如果扣六分，从什莫时候扣，会有几年的纪录？ -cwnz(Hong); 2007-10-25 (#4016686@0)

2 YEARS -jinhuif(bluebird); 2007-10-25 (#4017347@0)

2年，是从警察开罚单的那天算起，还是从法庭的判决的那一天算起？谢谢你的回复。 -cwnz(Hong); 2007-10-26 (#4017597@0)

看你的描述前言不搭后语的，我也不相信你。 -onlyi(onlyi); 2007-10-25 (#4016755@0)

到底有没有校巴，我的确是没有办法肯定的。所以我只能够说我没有看见校巴。我也知道这不能说明没有校巴的存在。但是我前面的大车是在我的正前方的，我跟在他的后面。警察把我们同时拦下，我们两部车都有遭到罚单。 -cwnz(Hong); 2007-10-26 {769} (#4017558@0)
这就是当时的情况，我不明白为啥警察上了法庭就说是我一个人冲过校巴，而其他的车都有停下来。那我前方的大车如果有停车的话，我又是怎样冲过去的？我当时又没有换线。另外警察拦我校来的时候，我问他校巴在哪？他说是街对面。我是从东向西行，她说校巴是从西向东行，路中间没有安全岛。我朝他说的方向前后看去还是没有发现有校巴。不过这点也只能说明是我一直没有看见校巴，也不能证明当时是没有校巴的。这点我是承认的。但警察在法庭上的话很奇怪：他说他接到别人的电话说有人闯校巴后，她就跟在我后面将我拦下的。那她怎莫可能看见我闯了校巴呢？我真的不是想辩解，更没有撒谎。我看这次法官都这样判决了，再上诉怕是赢的机会可能也不大了。我想如果我态度好一点，让法官从宽处理会不会将罚款减
一些，分少扣一些？但我真的觉得自己很冤枉，真的是一句假话都没有讲。我很急啊，真的希望大家为我出点主意啊。

Answer a few questions.... If you can't convince me, how can you convince the judge? -mikesmith(老猫); 2007-10-25 {862} (#4017414@0)
到底有没有校巴？ Does "其实事发当天我从来没有见过校巴" mean there was no school bus at all on the road when the police issued the ticket and you are 100% innocent?
if this is true,
how did the school bus driver knows about your license plate number? And how can you explain "本来她把我前方的大车也拦下来了"?
conclusion 1) There was a school bus on the road, and several cars passed it, including you

Is this the first time you violate the school bus related traffic rule? based on " 警察也说只是接到校巴司机的投诉电话才跟上我的" and "她却说其他的车都停下来了，就我冲了校巴"
conclusion 2) This was Nth time you violated the traffic rule... Just this time you were caught on the scene.

Based on conclusion 1 and 2, all other facts are irrelevant and you are guilty on the charge.
法官不相信你，你就要找证据让他相信。你不能说你没冲小巴，只能说前面大车当了你的视线，你不是有意的，争取免予扣分，最好还能减少罚款。你还可有权利让当时第一目击证人出庭， -ccmail1918(热水锅里的青蛙); 2007-11-3 {139} (#4036248@0)
也就是看到你闯小车的那个人，如果警察无法让他出庭，那警察的证词就是间接证据，你赢面就大了。
我一向认为，如果你自认自己冤枉，就应该告到底。

@Las Vegas

Answer a few questions.... If you can't convince me, how can you convince the judge?

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