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回复 guest,(也同 Sailor 商量)

如果收集意见,最好能代表大家,也就是说每人(不论新人、旧人)都有权投一票。。。

Sailor 说了,会员如果重复投票,则后一票会覆盖前一票。只有一票的权利。
当然也可不停注册,email,用不同的会员名,
但 sign off 再 sign on,毕竟麻烦了一些。
反之如果对访客而言,则不好控制了,
每一次发言可以任用一个名字,则给访客投票权的话,如何控制其也只能投一票,而不是许多票呢。

其实我也认为访客应该有权投票,投票基于公平、公正、平等。只是这个技术上怎么处理呢???不可能寻 IP 吧?(把一件简单的事情折腾得这么复杂吧。)
或者可以这样,我觉得,访客的投票必须有评论附下。所有的评论按时间顺排,而不是就某人或某贴回复(或攻击),好象 Rolia 只有敌我两方似的。

人身攻击真太伤感情了。
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  • 枫下沙龙 / 站务管理 / Asking for your advise on the proposed voting system
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Dear friend, according to your suggestions ( from David_diao, ...), I'm preparing the development of a voting system. Here I post some ideas and I'm looking forward to your advise.

    In the current phase, the voting system opens to members only. That
    means guests are not able to vote. Every member has the privillege to
    launch a vote, we call this member as the launcher. The launcher will
    create a new vote, set the subject, startdate and enddate, the type of
    voting, e.g.:
    single/multiple
    secret(anonymous)/public

    The launcher may enable other members to suggest the vote options and
    edit and decide which options are invoked.

    When a vote begins, every member is able to ballot. If one member
    re-ballots, he/she can re-write his previous choice.

    The vote result can be viewed by everybody. For public voting, every
    voter's choice is openned to the public.

    How do you guys think about this proposal? Please kindly give me more
    suggestions, also let's discuss what name this system can take. Thanks
    in advance.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 我觉得不错。
    • gooooooooood!
    • 双手赞成!
      • 再加上双脚!
        • 再加上2个耳朵
    • 沉默的还是大多数啊.
      • 别人不知道,我是没看懂,(本人水平太差)。(另外给 Sailor 提点小建议)
        建议斑主可以先上测试版,看一看反映和效果。

        结果中可加 255 字符的短评。
        评论按时间顺排,不分正方,反方,或其他。

        对关键字、词,有检索并"屏壁?"功能,以免有人漫骂粗话。

        打开时象热点话题,多开一个窗口。

        (先是有人提出一话题,并提出一个方案。
        例如,rolia 聚会叫什么名字好?A. xx;
        跟贴的人可以投票,也可以添加选项。B xx;
        每人只能单选一个选项,或者添加一个选项。
        选项总数限制在 10 个以内,选项满了,不可以再加。
        好的建议只能写在评论里,由 BZ 添加。
        选项除 BZ 外,不可修改。
        网页右上方最后显示出来是一个饼状图。)

        Sailor 要多费心呀。
    • 太好了。
    • Because you are asking...
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛...So I say I'm not very impressed by the idea of "members" and "guest". You tell people this is a public forum yet you restrict the voting access to a considerably large group of participant, just because they chose to keep their personal only for them self. A typically web site that require membership access is because they want sell their member's information for a profit, or to feed the propaganda material in their members mailbox, either way they are just a step in their money making process. I fail to see Rolia fall into this category so if some one feel comfortable to let everybody know his email address just be it, but that doesn't necessarily mean everyone else has to follow, and that's not necessarily mean those who do not follow should be considered as outsider.

      The process of voting, is to collect the opinions for a particular issue, should be conducted in a way of mass survey, to have an actual picture it is important to get most people involved. As we've all seen, this forum is becoming some kind of narcissistic place where some people come to get their Ego massaged. I've noticed that when ever the issue raised the poor guy immediately get bombard by other one's inner circle friends for their sense of tribal man's morality, and some time admin also took their side and busy doing selective deleting. Yes, I said "Selective Deleting" because yours truly once to be admin's victim. Obviously they've already developed kind of bond or something so any wish of balancing from admin has became a luxury for the rest. By putting a checkpoint in front of voting booth I can imagine how the result be hijacked by group of people, and, it gives visitors false impression that it is the trend of opinion.

      All been said, I still appreciate sailor's effort to bring this forum so alive, thank you.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • Because my Ego get massaged so well here in rolia, it is becoming my most favorite site. Because my buddies can have their Ego massaged together here, I can see so many smiling faces.
        Why don't you just contribute something useful to the rest of the readers instead of pretending to be a life-saver showing off your look-to-be-perfect English writing skill?

        No matter what alias you are using, guest or 网上打老虎, your posts just make me feel uncomfortable. I guess most of my buddies here have the same feeling as well. If that is what you want, you've got what you want already.
        • 呵呵, 咱们自己该怎么过就怎么过,Who cares?
          • Got ya!, Man I just can't believe such word come off your mouth, Where is the moral high ground you once occupied?
          • 大卫,根本不用回贴,浪费时间,道理说得我都觉得自己罗嗦啦,西西,,,
          • David, who cares sounds easier.hehe
            • 9494。你们没有看见我在组织本周末的足球活动呢吗?谢谢!
        • Woo...... See what I mean, I expected to be flamed but this fast...Sorry to make you feel uncomfortable but here is my spin so where is your counter spin beside personal attack?
      • 回复 guest,(也同 Sailor 商量)
        如果收集意见,最好能代表大家,也就是说每人(不论新人、旧人)都有权投一票。。。

        Sailor 说了,会员如果重复投票,则后一票会覆盖前一票。只有一票的权利。
        当然也可不停注册,email,用不同的会员名,
        但 sign off 再 sign on,毕竟麻烦了一些。
        反之如果对访客而言,则不好控制了,
        每一次发言可以任用一个名字,则给访客投票权的话,如何控制其也只能投一票,而不是许多票呢。

        其实我也认为访客应该有权投票,投票基于公平、公正、平等。只是这个技术上怎么处理呢???不可能寻 IP 吧?(把一件简单的事情折腾得这么复杂吧。)
        或者可以这样,我觉得,访客的投票必须有评论附下。所有的评论按时间顺排,而不是就某人或某贴回复(或攻击),好象 Rolia 只有敌我两方似的。

        人身攻击真太伤感情了。
        • 同意你的前半部分思想。后半部分,由于论坛已经是发表评论的场所,再在投票时发表评论,凭空为网站和读者增加很多麻烦,实无必要。
      • How about let all guests share one vote. All guests are just like a member in voting. But any guest can overturn a previous guest's vote.
        Because Rlia has already left the door open, if a guest still thinks it is un-safe to register as a memeber then he may lose some privilege.

        A web site is like a club, any club has the distinction between a guest and its member even the membership is for free.
      • One person one vote. That's the rule of the voting system. If you could find out some means to prevent a guest from voting unlimited times, I would surport the idea of putting guests into the voting system.
      • 先想清楚为什么要VOTE, 然后就简单了(先做需求分析, RIGHT?)
        Rolia's voting system, in my mind,

        IS USED TO HELP FRIENDS (I avoid to use member or guest) HERE TO:
        - Decide which activity should we take
        - In Staturday or Sunday, or Good Friday
        - Which restraunt will we go
        - And, I believe you have understand what I mean

        and, in most cases,

        IS NOT USED TO:
        - Get public opinion on any hot topics,

        So, in my opinion, we do need a vote system, and,
        - It's for members only, since this is the easiest way for all of us to know who will attend in the voting activity
        - It should be as easy / simple as possible (for both the designing and using)
        - It should have a control point to avoid junk votes
        - If Sailor is willing to do extra work, could also add a public voting system, for questions like these posts of "举手", "跺脚".
    • Great idea! I think the only question about this issue is when and how.And I'd like to serve my expertise......
    • I didnt even know there is a voting function there. Sounds good.
    • Agree! :-)
    • 说老实话,我觉得投票挺烦的,看贴,回贴,不挺好吗?
      • 我同意,要是显示阅览数就更好了。不过新东西试试也好。
    • 我是新来的,没见过voting system here .what is it for?
    • 如果某人注册了多个名字呢?
      • I believe our voting resulte will NOT change the world, right? So, if they insist to do that, let it be.
    • 没所谓啊!可以试一下,好就用,不好另外换!
    • confused...how to vote now?
      • The voting system is not ready yet, so be patient
    • 您老辛苦啦.