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my another friend.....

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛a chemical PHD. Got his first job at 55,000 two months ago when he had
landed for only 30 days.


Sailor is right, english is very important

Both the mechanical and this chemical speak perfect english. More, they
both have the ability to express themself for Philosiphy, Political
issues. We may need to know, a country man in china speaks perfect
chinese too, only the knowledge beyond daily life seperates people.
If you are IT, it dosn't matter. If you are a normal Engineer,
you may want to have the ability to talk Music, History, Painting..
whatever "show-off things" in english. Remember, when you chase a
girl 10 years ago, you need to quote those great writers, musicians.
In Canada, it is the same as what we did 10 years ago to girls.

The abv chemical PHD is working in the lab. Ironically, in the production
line, he sees a lot of Local graduated chinese Chemical PHD. I guess
the main issue here is his ability to talk like educated.

So is your english good enough? you ask yourself
1. can I make jokes easily in english
2. can I talk beyond daily life (eg. Russian sub-marine sunk and the
economical storm at home....)
3. can I tell people my point of view (eg. how china may catch up with
the western world yet remain its culture untouched...)

my 3rd friend, speaks broken english. he had an IT job as a system
adminstrator in 1997 when people in my circle normally had no job
or no meanfully job. He was the only king. And his idea is always IT, IT
and IT. He was laid off at that Christmas. But he was very confident,
and took a 3 month Orical training course immediately at U of T. He
graduated, but didn't find any IT job until now.

What I want to say is, even for IT guys, english is also very important.
you got hired because there is no other same technically qualified guy
available. Not because they like you. For a long term consideration,
you have to be liked. If people don't like you, can't communicate with
you, sooner or later, you are a looser.

In that girl's company, there was a chinese man engineer. Whoes english
is so broken such that his boss had to write a note to him in order
to make him understand what the boss says. That guy was fired very soon.


English is important. Good english is nothing if you knows little, speaks
little or have nothing to tell. We have thousands of second generation
chinese born in china town for decays. But if you see those general
managers sent to china from western world, you will find there is NO
such cbc from china town. You often find graduated over sea chinese
students be sent back as a general manager. why? CBC speaks english far
better than a Liu Xue Sheng, why not send CBC back to China?my answer is cbc from
china town often pretend they don't speak chinese. So they don't have
identity ( Ren2 Ge2). Eventhough they speak perfect english, no body
respect them.This paragraph seems to be not revelant. It is. Same concept.

One word: be a "high standard man".
---so you talk abt high level stuffs ( music, phylosipghy,politic..s)
---so you are somebody of yourself.( you must say you love china at ANY time. People
knows the cbc from china town pretends not to speak chinese)
---you have the ability to say abv so people knows you are actually who you are


whish we chinese new immigrants success!!!!!更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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Replies, comments and Discussions:

  • 枫下拾英 / 心情随笔 / 都说加拿大找工作难,对于非计算机人士,会难道什末程度?会危及生存吗?
    移民对每个人都是一种挑战,对大多数人更是一个痛苦的选择.本人非计算机专业,申请的同时也是犹豫的过程,我的未来会怎末样?请就各位先行者:加拿大现状究竟如何?在国内,可以说有技术的人找到工作不难,只是好坏的问题;加国哪?如果运气欠佳,会真的衣食无着落吗?
    • nobody starves here if you can work or have enough reason not to work.
    • one of my friend, mechanical engineer......
      got her first job in 1997 @ 35,000 as a mechanical engeering in toronto.
      she then changed her 2nd job at 20/hr in 1998. recently, she got a new
      position at 60,000.

      The point is
      : keep your major. insist until death. don't go for labour.

      her case is : she had been idle for 6 months. but she only apply for
      mechanical engeer job. her first job was like a shit== just a drawer.

      her 2nd job was 1/5 design + 4/5 drawer

      her current is 100% designer.

      majors like: machincal/ electronical/chemical are all possible to find job.

      in Toronto Star ( a newspaper), there are jobs posted daily. what you
      may need to do is to send resume daily, and insist on. never give up.
      and keep yourself away from labour jobs such as a dish washer..

      wish you succeed
      • 和我住同一HOUSE的一个瑞典博士,作了一年多的工人才在冬天的OTTOWA(原来在TORONTO)找到一个3.5万的工作。
        • 临走的时候还叫我帮他COPY了一份MSDN光碟
          • Ëû上课是用英语,还在澳大利亚呆了1年,英语不是很差,机械专业。发了一千多的简历。他的问题是没有加拿大本地工作经验,没有雇主要的具体工作经验,年龄偏大(40)。
        • Cases differ from person to person greatly. I myself hold an MBA and found a good position in my field after 4 months job hunting. Salary package is better than most of the IT guys.
      • You mean don't do the "general labour" job? Also I think English is important.
    • my another friend.....
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛a chemical PHD. Got his first job at 55,000 two months ago when he had
      landed for only 30 days.


      Sailor is right, english is very important

      Both the mechanical and this chemical speak perfect english. More, they
      both have the ability to express themself for Philosiphy, Political
      issues. We may need to know, a country man in china speaks perfect
      chinese too, only the knowledge beyond daily life seperates people.
      If you are IT, it dosn't matter. If you are a normal Engineer,
      you may want to have the ability to talk Music, History, Painting..
      whatever "show-off things" in english. Remember, when you chase a
      girl 10 years ago, you need to quote those great writers, musicians.
      In Canada, it is the same as what we did 10 years ago to girls.

      The abv chemical PHD is working in the lab. Ironically, in the production
      line, he sees a lot of Local graduated chinese Chemical PHD. I guess
      the main issue here is his ability to talk like educated.

      So is your english good enough? you ask yourself
      1. can I make jokes easily in english
      2. can I talk beyond daily life (eg. Russian sub-marine sunk and the
      economical storm at home....)
      3. can I tell people my point of view (eg. how china may catch up with
      the western world yet remain its culture untouched...)

      my 3rd friend, speaks broken english. he had an IT job as a system
      adminstrator in 1997 when people in my circle normally had no job
      or no meanfully job. He was the only king. And his idea is always IT, IT
      and IT. He was laid off at that Christmas. But he was very confident,
      and took a 3 month Orical training course immediately at U of T. He
      graduated, but didn't find any IT job until now.

      What I want to say is, even for IT guys, english is also very important.
      you got hired because there is no other same technically qualified guy
      available. Not because they like you. For a long term consideration,
      you have to be liked. If people don't like you, can't communicate with
      you, sooner or later, you are a looser.

      In that girl's company, there was a chinese man engineer. Whoes english
      is so broken such that his boss had to write a note to him in order
      to make him understand what the boss says. That guy was fired very soon.


      English is important. Good english is nothing if you knows little, speaks
      little or have nothing to tell. We have thousands of second generation
      chinese born in china town for decays. But if you see those general
      managers sent to china from western world, you will find there is NO
      such cbc from china town. You often find graduated over sea chinese
      students be sent back as a general manager. why? CBC speaks english far
      better than a Liu Xue Sheng, why not send CBC back to China?my answer is cbc from
      china town often pretend they don't speak chinese. So they don't have
      identity ( Ren2 Ge2). Eventhough they speak perfect english, no body
      respect them.This paragraph seems to be not revelant. It is. Same concept.

      One word: be a "high standard man".
      ---so you talk abt high level stuffs ( music, phylosipghy,politic..s)
      ---so you are somebody of yourself.( you must say you love china at ANY time. People
      knows the cbc from china town pretends not to speak chinese)
      ---you have the ability to say abv so people knows you are actually who you are


      whish we chinese new immigrants success!!!!!更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • Except you can find a decent job. The landlord and the boss are very rude to