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PLEASE HELP!!! Technical Accounting Question: Accounting treatment for Recapture of HST

what is the correct accounting treatment for recapture of HST?

e.g. my company recieved a phone bill of $100, plus HST of $13 at 13%.(totaling at $113) because of the "Recapture of HST", i can only claim an ITC of $5 instead of the whole $13. the ONtario postion (PST) of 8% can not be included in ITC (input TAx Credit).

Normally, the entry goes like this:

Debit Phone Expense 100, debit HST Recievable 13, and Credit AP of 113

Under recapture of HST rule (My guess):

Debit Phone Expense 108, Debit HST Recievable 13;

Credit AP of 113, Credit Recapture of HST(or similar account) 8

Am I right??? since the $8 of PST is not allowed to be reclaimed, it should be EXPENSED. Either it is expensed as a seperate expense account (debit $100 and 8$ seperately) OR combined with the real expense (in this case, the $108)? I am just guessing but I am not 100% sure about this, can anyone help???
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  • PLEASE HELP!!! Technical Accounting Question: Accounting treatment for Recapture of HST
    what is the correct accounting treatment for recapture of HST?

    e.g. my company recieved a phone bill of $100, plus HST of $13 at 13%.(totaling at $113) because of the "Recapture of HST", i can only claim an ITC of $5 instead of the whole $13. the ONtario postion (PST) of 8% can not be included in ITC (input TAx Credit).

    Normally, the entry goes like this:

    Debit Phone Expense 100, debit HST Recievable 13, and Credit AP of 113

    Under recapture of HST rule (My guess):

    Debit Phone Expense 108, Debit HST Recievable 13;

    Credit AP of 113, Credit Recapture of HST(or similar account) 8

    Am I right??? since the $8 of PST is not allowed to be reclaimed, it should be EXPENSED. Either it is expensed as a seperate expense account (debit $100 and 8$ seperately) OR combined with the real expense (in this case, the $108)? I am just guessing but I am not 100% sure about this, can anyone help???
    • That's what I did in our company as well. However, the transaction would be more complicated when it comes to meal because of the 50% deduction policy.
    • Debit Phone Expense 100, Debit HST paid 5, Debit restricted HST paid 8.( expense this account later) Credit AP of 113.
      • Thanks
      • I don't think it's a good idea to expense 8% HST later if there are a lot of different cost code involved.
        • it's not an "idea" to expense the 8%. it's the only way to book it for now. (check CRA's website)
          • Where would you group the 8% HST account in FS?
          • I dont think CRA has anything to do with accounting tech.
            • well, so does the 8% goes I/S as expense??
              • Yes it does go to expense if the money is not refundable. However here we're discussing how and when to expense it, that's what I meant accounting tech. CRA cares of TAX but how to record it. CICA and accounting policy tells how and when.
                I wish I'd made my statement clear enough now.
              • I just realized you're LZ. I believe both methods mentioned are good. However for the 1st one, how would you treat the recapture acct later?
                Reconcile to the related exp accts or directly to misc? What if the acct got so lenthy and it took lots effort to recon? Therefore I prefer the 2nd one and remark the entry "recapture" for audit trail. The method below (create a contra acct for audit trail) should work as well.
                • what's LZ
    • I am taking care about Recapture HST for our group lease equipments (there are thousands). Regulation: large corp, vehicle cap weight <3000T, Recapture HST applied.
      13% HST is taken into HST receivable a/c when processing invoice to system, usually on 1st day of every month,
      RHST and RHST contra a/c were set up. For month end, calculate RHST for each job(8% part), against HST receivable, take it into the particular job cost. Also, we book the amount to RHST and RHST contra. By this way, it is easy to pool out RHST amount for reporting, and auditing trail as well.There are four classes of expense fit to this regualtion. I don't know if HST on phone bill need to be recaptureed.
    • Dr. Phone expense 108 Dr. HST Receivable 13 Cr. HST Recapture 8 Cr. AP 113