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刚好读到T4 guide这段：

wutwo(小亭)
If the individual does not give you his or her SIN within
three days of starting to work, you should be able to show
that you made a reasonable effort to get it. If you don’t, you
may be subject to a penalty of $100 for each number you
didn’t get. If you cannot obtain a SIN from the employee,
file your information return, without the SIN, on or before
the last day of February.
For more information, see the current version of
Information Circular IC82-2, Social Insurance Number
Legislation that Relates to the Preparation of Information Slips,
(#78770@41)
Last Updated: 2014-2-4
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  • 前任BOOKKEEPER因跟老板有矛盾，不肯提交SIN。公司里所有的FILE里都没办法找到她的SIN。现在用WEB FORM出T4，没有SIN，系统就没办法出T4，影响整个公司的T4发放。这怎么解决呢？ -yifeitong(平湖秋月); 2014-2-4 (#78742@41)
    • 问问CRA怎么办。 -criss(criss); 2014-2-4 (#78743@41)
      • 只知LEGAL NAME，连住址都没有留下。 -yifeitong(平湖秋月); 2014-2-4 (#78744@41)
        • 那怎么发工资呢，source deduction什么的，怎么交的，那些不用sin吗？ -criss(criss); 2014-2-4 (#78745@41)
          • SIN在平时发工资和交PAYROLL DEDUCTION的时候是用不上的。只有年底出T4时才用。 -yifeitong(平湖秋月); 2014-2-4 (#78747@41)
            • 我google的，你打电话去，应该可以查到sin。 -criss(criss); 2014-2-4 {468} (#78748@41)
              Employers can contact Service Canada's Social Insurance Registration Office at 1-800-206-7218 and select option “3” or 1-506-548-7961 if outside of Canada (long distance charges apply) to confirm the SIN of a current or former employee, and ensure that a new employee's SIN is correct. Employers will be required to provide their business number (issued by the Canada Revenue Agency), as well as appropriate identification regarding the company and the SIN holder.
            • sin -employer -criss(criss); 2014-2-4 (#78749@41)
              • 谢谢你的帮助。我试试吧，看看只提供名字是不是可以查到她的SIN。 -yifeitong(平湖秋月); 2014-2-4 (#78751@41)
                • CRA不会给你她的SIN的除非你有court order还必须要邮寄。 -lemon_lime(pathtogoal); 2014-2-5 (#78790@41)
                  • 我可不可以说我们的T4资料没有保存好，想要一份2012年的T4 SLIP的COPY？她报给CRA的那份一定是包括了自己的那份，否则无法平帐。很奇怪，SIN为什么瞒着藏着呢？没有必要啊！？ -yifeitong(平湖秋月); 2014-2-5 (#78795@41)
                    • 这个主意好 -criss(criss); 2014-2-6 (#78836@41)
    • 刚好读到T4 guide这段： -wutwo(小亭); 2014-2-4 {558} (#78770@41)
      If the individual does not give you his or her SIN within
      three days of starting to work, you should be able to show
      that you made a reasonable effort to get it. If you don’t, you
      may be subject to a penalty of $100 for each number you
      didn’t get. If you cannot obtain a SIN from the employee,
      file your information return, without the SIN, on or before
      the last day of February.
      For more information, see the current version of
      Information Circular IC82-2, Social Insurance Number
      Legislation that Relates to the Preparation of Information Slips,
      • 这个人刚好就是负责员工登记SIN的BOOKKEEPER。我查了2012年T4 SLIP的留底，她居然把她自己的抽出去了。 -yifeitong(平湖秋月); 2014-2-5 {321} (#78784@41)
        完全是暗箱操作。给她发了几条信息，回复都是，你把T4填好传给我，SIN我自己填上去寄到CRA。可是今年用WEB FORM，没有SIN，这张T4 SLIP就不能完成保存，不能保存，整个数字就跟之前每月交的PAYROLL DEDUCTION对不上啊。今早居然又收到她的信息：2月底前我必须收到我的T4。我打电话过去，解释没有她的SIN我没办法出T4，她居然又说：去找我的律师！
        • 你们招人都不填TD1么？ -lemon_lime(pathtogoal); 2014-2-5 (#78789@41)
        • What if the employee refuses to give you his or her SIN or to apply for one?看看 -lemon_lime(pathtogoal); 2014-2-5 {770} (#78791@41)
          What if the employee refuses to give you his or her SIN or to apply for one?
          You have to be able to show that you made a reasonable effort to get it.

          Example

          An example of a reasonable effort would be if, after asking your employee for his SIN many times, you decide to contact him in writing to request his SIN. Record the dates you asked him, and keep a copy of the written request and any other related correspondence.

          If you do not make a reasonable effort to get a SIN, you may be subject to a penalty.

          Even if you have not received your employee's SIN, you have to calculate, make deductions and remit them, and file an information return on or before the last day of February of the following calendar year. If you don't, we may assess penalties.
        • So stop texting!!! Get things in writing, email her and cc her lawyer and get your manager's signature and attention. -lemon_lime(pathtogoal); 2014-2-5 (#78792@41)
        • 你就去找她律师，发信给律师过去。反正律师费她出。不懂，为什么让你找直接找他律师，她钱多的慌。。。 -criss(criss); 2014-2-6 (#78837@41)

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