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枫下家园 / 医药保健 / About 30,000 health workers in public system not vaccinated against COVID-19: Quebec health minister. 不是几千,是三万。- Global News
-lovedrive(深蓝爷爷);
2021-9-17
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Study: Fully Vaccinated Healthcare Workers Carry 251 Times Viral Load, Pose Threat to Unvaccinated Patients, Co-Workers (#13940309@0)
-jackliu8688(Jack);
2021-9-17
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这也合理的解释了,为什么接种率这么高的情况下,很多感染的是未打疫苗,身边都是毒王啊。
-lovedrive(深蓝爷爷);
2021-9-17
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如果有2个电影间各XXX人,你们愿意进打疫苗的那间看还是反之?
-xiaozuiba(xiaozuiba);
2021-9-17
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我在疫情期间,不会去电影院,这是常识。这两间都不能保证安全。
-lovedrive(深蓝爷爷);
2021-9-17
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你们公司有有2个office各XXX人,现在要求on-site,你们愿意进打疫苗的那间看还是反之?
-wadangonly(vatansoso);
2021-9-17
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Better to go Unvaxx cause more likely get early warning. Vaxx may carry tons of virus load but show no syndrome. Regardless, with IVM on hand, most likely (>99%) will walk through it fine.
-headbig(Let's Rock!);
2021-9-17
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跑题了。BTW, 我以为到了现在,不戴口罩的群聚=反智,你选择与他们一起抗议,不觉得心虚吗?
-wadangonly(vatansoso);
2021-9-17
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你那里看到我们反口罩了?我们有任何发言反口罩?太会偷换概念了吧?
-lovedrive(深蓝爷爷);
2021-9-17
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沒说你,说的是两天前上面那位朋友参加的protest.
-wadangonly(vatansoso);
2021-9-17
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No. I was there fighting for freedom of choice. I can not be more confident of what I am doing is right, is something I can proudly told my children that you HAVE TO stand your ground!
-headbig(Let's Rock!);
2021-9-17
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我很肯定那些人认为你做的还不够,竟然居从政府戴上口罩。🤭
-wadangonly(vatansoso);
2021-9-17
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Some would, some won't. disagreement is reasonable and acceptable. What not acceptable is propaganda and taking away other's freedom.
-headbig(Let's Rock!);
2021-9-17
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这两间风险都一样,密闭空间,一个有两个,一个有5个感染者,大家都会中招。没区别。
-lovedrive(深蓝爷爷);
2021-9-17
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那对你来说,疫苗护照就是win- win, 你不介意,有人介意。 把你安排进你的group, 两方都安心。
-wadangonly(vatansoso);
2021-9-17
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安心不代表安全,很多人根本没有对这个疫苗的了解,打完两针后,到处狂蜂浪蝶,这样的人不少,这才是最危险的分子。
-lovedrive(深蓝爷爷);
2021-9-17
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所以疫苗护照才能保护到没打的人,为什么反对呢?
-wadangonly(vatansoso);
2021-9-17
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因为都是错的,这所以怎么会对呢?
-lovedrive(深蓝爷爷);
2021-9-17
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“ 打完两针后,到处狂蜂浪蝶,这样的人不少”, 把危险分子贴上标签,不是可以规避风险吗?
-wadangonly(vatansoso);
2021-9-17
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他身上贴了这个标签吗?他可是拿了官方护身符,让周围的人”放心“靠近滴。
-lovedrive(深蓝爷爷);
2021-9-17
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官方是让同group的人放心靠近,而在特定场所禁止另一个group的人靠近。
-wadangonly(vatansoso);
2021-9-17
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Point is FREEDOM OF CHOICE. I careless if you choose to vaxx or not, mask or not. I protest the mandate.
-headbig(Let's Rock!);
2021-9-17
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当然,我们都有freedom of 支持或反对mandate. 每个人只有平等的一票。
-wadangonly(vatansoso);
2021-9-17
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You don't understand. Freedom is not something can be taken away simply because more people agree.
-headbig(Let's Rock!);
2021-9-17
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嗯,freedom存在于每个人心里,我说有就有,谁也取不走。就象幸福,不可言传。bye!
-wadangonly(vatansoso);
2021-9-17
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you may told those Jews in prison back 80 years ago your "freedom" in your heart! what a nonsense. Regardless, best wishes!
-headbig(Let's Rock!);
2021-9-17
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如果这个研究是可信任的,那么可以证明这几点:1,疫苗确实能一定程度降低感染率,因为能携带更多病毒并不(一定)被感染上,也就是制造了更多超级传播者;2,由于1,疫苗加快了病毒进化;3,由于2,疫苗无法阻止疫情,只会让疫情加重。
-lifyy(lifyy);
2021-9-17
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就象文中所说:“This phenomenon may be the source of the shocking post-vaccination surges in heavily vaccinated populations globally. ”
-jackliu8688(Jack);
2021-9-17
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Not 降低"感染率", but "syndrome", and only for short term. Seems 6 month at most, then need booster.
-headbig(Let's Rock!);
2021-9-17
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所以加上了“一定程度”。不管如何,短时间内能携带超量病毒并不被感染上,就能说是降低了感染率。但从长期看,属于饮鸩止渴,培养蛊王的趋势。当然都建筑在这些研究是可靠的基础上。
-lifyy(lifyy);
2021-9-17
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This study is quite high credibility. Please note this is a comparison of average data from the same facility before and after so pretty much eliminate all other factors.
-headbig(Let's Rock!);
2021-9-17
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其实以色列的现状也一定程度上提供了证明,让我们继续看下去。我就好奇,如果成真,到时候强迫疫苗的政府准备如何收场,民主因此无责任?强迫本身就不符合民主吧?哈哈。
-lifyy(lifyy);
2021-9-17
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新加坡正在步以色列的後塵,75%完全接種,今天確診創新高,加拿大也快了
-nopush(nopush);
2021-9-17
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Unbelievable! Canadians are Great! Let the truth spread all over the world!
-111111(快乐老家);
2021-9-17
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