Topic: 愿意交流考Java Architecture 的DX请进 @拉斯维加斯华人论坛:拉斯维加斯枫下论坛 The Rolia Forum of Las Vegas

工作学习 / IT技术讨论 / 愿意交流考Java Architecture 的DX请进才参加了一个training course, 动了考Java Architecture 念头,可仔细看了SUN网站,发现居然要考三试,希望能找些志同道合的朋友去对付这考试:D -happy_4_7(人参果); 2001-9-21 {131} (#206649@0)

不是打消你的积极性，3试的难度极大，你要三思！而且可能它的用处不一定比MCSD大（因为有。NET在抄后路呢） -solarisca(IT人); 2001-9-21 (#206789@0)

.Net很多概念也是"borrow from" J2EE,所以也有共同处,也许精通一样就可以 -happy_4_7(人参果); 2001-9-24 (#208791@0)
dot net = don't net. -mocha(Mocha Java); 2001-10-6 (#218209@0)

I AM PREPARING THE EXAMNATIONS NOW -daceasy(DacEasy); 2001-9-21 {223} (#206819@0)

That's great, finally found a person do the same thing with me, hope can commuication with you frequently, so we can exchange the progress of our exam, -happy_4_7(人参果); 2001-9-23 (#208148@0)

I don't like exam,but...I have no way to show them my ability. In my opinoin, developing programs is one thing, and taking exam is another. But all my experiences are from china. I think they are nothing here. The goal of getting the certificate is to make Mr. human resource to ask you some questions rather than return your resume and say "I can't help you". Believe me, it's really frustrating. -daceasy(DacEasy); 2001-9-22 {378} (#207441@0)

you are right guy, I totally agree with your point,if you have this certificate, you have more chance to let Mr. HR talk to you, but of course experience is more important at future, let 's do it better than just think it :D -happy_4_7(人参果); 2001-9-23 {174} (#208154@0)

Let's get startedWe should be on the right track. J2EE is a platform with many protocols and techniques. We can read some books on them. As a architect, you should also master some design patterns which are important part of the exam . Of cause we should set up the testing environment and do some projects on them. -daceasy(DacEasy); 2001-9-24 {300} (#209027@0)

thx the URL, get some informations, I 'll also provide some useful URL to you if I found :P -happy_4_7(人参果); 2001-9-24 (#209565@0)

Yes, it is true. From my point of view, If someone has time to obtain a Java certificate, there is a large possibility that she/he is not a real Java developer. My suggestion is: Don't waste you money any more. -usermarco(marco); 2001-9-24 (#208757@0)

I definitely don't want to waste my money, butyou know what, they alway ask me if I am working now when I send them my resume. I always tell them no. Then they would tell me I had to wait and wouldn't ask detail questions anymore. So I think wasting money is better than wasting time. I have many years experience in C/C++ and Java. But they are nothing here. That's the problem. -daceasy(DacEasy); 2001-9-24 {336} (#209017@0)

But the question is: A certificate is really useful to you? -usermarco(marco); 2001-9-24 (#209560@0)

Maybe the certificate can give you one more interview chance, & as I know the Architect certificate don't like MCSD easy to get . -happy_4_7(人参果); 2001-9-24 (#209576@0)

And do you have real-time experience? In Java, are you focus on Swing or server end? JSP or EJB or CORBA? Do you have any knowledge about SNMP and LDAP? -usermarco(marco); 2001-9-24 (#209569@0)

My point is focus on design system, do more architect job is important than just focus on one detail skill . -happy_4_7(人参果); 2001-9-24 (#209579@0)

I don't think so. Experience and details are fundamental for an good system architect. -usermarco(marco); 2001-9-25 (#209606@0)

I agree your point, but I think we should intentionally upgrade our skill to high level, we can't do coding at whole our life right ? -happy_4_7(人参果); 2001-9-25 (#209693@0)

人参果，I am not testing others skill, I just want to know if someone is qualified for an opportunity. actually, most of design patterns are for detail design, not for architecture. -usermarco(marco); 2001-9-25 (#209611@0)

评论：中国IT业将如何应对人才“贫血”？http://www.sina.com.cn -std(std); 2001-9-23 {2453} (#208524@0)
Another guy will join you! Beliver me, the certificate is definetely something useful.Here is a usefu website http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/restricted/patterns/J2EEPatternsAtAGlance.html
which has all J2EE patterns description.
My suggestion is reading some common Design Patterns first, and then come to J2EE patterns which is a must to test in Java certificate test. -jasperjaguar(jasperjaguar); 2001-10-6 {294} (#218075@0)

Thanks guy, I 'm appreciate your reply and helping, okay ,LET'S DO IT, -happy_4_7(人参果); 2001-10-8 (#218975@0)

Are there any DX who got job because you has Java certificates?I have 1 year Java programming experience (Java Servlet), I took a lot of time to study J2EE. I dont know if Java certificates are useful to find a job as a java developer, if yes, how much? -2eyes1mouth(2eyes1mouth); 2001-10-6 {191} (#218109@0)

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